Pottermore Cheats: Earning more house points through failure then success in potion making

UPDATE 9/14/2011: TH_NK has updated Pottermore so that you no longer earn house points when you fail to brew a potion, this simple fix nullifies the cheating method mentioned below, Hurrah!

I’m going to preface what I’m going to say below with the statement that I am not putting this post up as an invitation to cheat on pottermore.  I would have sent this message privately to the Pottermore developers, however I could find no place on pottermore.com, insider.pottermore.com, @pottermore or pottermore on facebook where I could send a message to the devs.  The closest I could find was the Beta Feedback button, which presents a feedback form that lets you rank a page on a scale of how much you like it, but it has no comment field, no way to introduce a comment for the devs.

My hope is that by posting this publicly on my blog, the Pottermore devs will find this post and fix the issue (and perhaps add a method of commenting privately to the devs).

So the problem with Potionmaking in Pottermore is that you can earn far more house points from failure as you can from success, at least in a given time frame.

If you successfully brew a potion, you earn 5 house points, but successfully brewing a potion takes a minimum of 85 minutes (different potions take longer, 80 seems to be the minimum wait time between the 2 steps and even if you are fast your additional time of actually doing the steps will take you an extra 5 minutes). While a potion is brewing for the 80 minutes, you cannot brew any other potions (even if you own multiple cauldrons), you simply have to wait out the 80 minutes and then come back.

Earning a point from failure
If you fail to brew a potion, you earn 1 house point

If you fail to brew a potion, you still earn 1 house point, as soon as you get into the potion making session, wave your wand, you’ll “fail” to make the potion, but will still be awarded 1 house point, but this takes a minute (or less). If you take 85 minutes of doing one “attempt” per minute, you will earn 85 house points, 17 times as many points as you could possibly earn in that same amount of time by brewing the potion correctly.

Granted, you will eat through the potion ingredients pretty quickly going about it this way, but if you stick to the “cheap” potions, that is to say the potions that don’t involve expensive ingredients like bezoars, your hundreds of galleons given to you by pottermore will last you for quite a few house points.

I know many other people have figured out this simple realization that you can earn more points through failure then you can from success, but what isn’t clear is if the Pottermore devs are aware of it yet, my hope is that if they aren’t, that this post will clue them in that the potion making process really needs some serious thought.  As it is, there is next to no incentive (other then acquiring a vial of potion) to actually going through the lengthy process to create the potion successfully.

  • Guest

    There *is* a longer feedback submission form buried in the Help FAQ, but unfortunately it’s not pointed out anywhere you’d readily notice it. See page @ https://www.pottermore.com/en/help#other — scroll down to expand “What’s Next” and then “Need more help” — you can enter feedback there up to 500 characters, plus request a reply if you want one.

  • Hey. I found an area on pottermore to submit info to them where you can actually type but not sure quite yet how much they monitor it since I’ve received no response as of yet. Go to Pottermore, right down the bottom is a help button, click it. Then click Other, then What’s next, then Need more help and it will give a drop down and you get 500 characters to submit a suggestion 🙂

    • Thank you for finding this! I’ve been looking all over the help for this and somehow missed it. Now I can give them feedback (I hope they read it, I have more feedback)

  • Hey. I found an area on pottermore to submit info to them where you can actually type but not sure quite yet how much they monitor it since I’ve received no response as of yet. Go to Pottermore, right down the bottom is a help button, click it. Then click Other, then What’s next, then Need more help and it will give a drop down and you get 500 characters to submit a suggestion 🙂

    • Thank you for finding this! I’ve been looking all over the help for this and somehow missed it. Now I can give them feedback (I hope they read it, I have more feedback)

  • Thank you both for finding this.

  • Lmwolframhart

    I’ve found the lack of written feedback option frustrating too, I know they probably don’t want hundreds of people demanding things that just aren’t possible, or sending in endless ‘I love Draco!’ messages but I’d like somewhere to send constructive thoughts.

    • Yes I think you are right, they are wanting to focus their efforts on future development not on having to go through a ton of feedback, but still, they need to make it more obvious how to contact them, They don’t have to actually respond, but they need to make it easier to find.

      • Jester

        write a swearword in the comment and theyll monitor it right? ^^

        • yes, they do moderate swearing, but they also moderate quite a lot of other things. You don’t have to swear for your comment to be flagged for moderation, I’ve had sentences such as “A great day to be a ravenclaw” moderated.

          • Hufflepuff

            I’d say that’s probably more to do with the fact that Ravenclaw sucks than anything else…..

          • At least we don’t have to crawl on our hands and knees through a barrel to get into our common room.

    • Erica

      I’ve taken to leaving feedback in the comments section of the chapters. Don’t know if the comments will ever be read by any devs but it does help me feel like I’ve made the effort to provide productive feedback…something it seems many of the Beta tests are not interesting in doing. :-

  • Lmwolframhart

    I’ve found the lack of written feedback option frustrating too, I know they probably don’t want hundreds of people demanding things that just aren’t possible, or sending in endless ‘I love Draco!’ messages but I’d like somewhere to send constructive thoughts.

    • Yes I think you are right, they are wanting to focus their efforts on future development not on having to go through a ton of feedback, but still, they need to make it more obvious how to contact them, They don’t have to actually respond, but they need to make it easier to find.

      • Jester

        write a swearword in the comment and theyll monitor it right? ^^

        • yes, they do moderate swearing, but they also moderate quite a lot of other things. You don’t have to swear for your comment to be flagged for moderation, I’ve had sentences such as “A great day to be a ravenclaw” moderated.

    • Erica

      I’ve taken to leaving feedback in the comments section of the chapters. Don’t know if the comments will ever be read by any devs but it does help me feel like I’ve made the effort to provide productive feedback…something it seems many of the Beta tests are not interesting in doing. :-

  • They have commented on the Insider Blog ( http://insider.pottermore.com/2011/09/from-duelling-to-potions.html ) that they are intending on changing potions soon, but they are just talking about making brewing potions faster (which might reduce the problem, but it won’t eliminate it) they need to either significantly increase the number of points earned for success or eliminate earning a point on failure.

  • They have commented on the Insider Blog ( http://insider.pottermore.com/2011/09/from-duelling-to-potions.html ) that they are intending on changing potions soon, but they are just talking about making brewing potions faster (which might reduce the problem, but it won’t eliminate it) they need to either significantly increase the number of points earned for success or eliminate earning a point on failure.

  • *Sarah* Moton

    they stopped giving the 1 point for failing @ your potion …

    • Did they? I’ll log in when I get home from work to try this out, but if they did this is actually good news, it will make the potion making much more logical.

      The thing I don’t get though… it is supposed to be potter timeline sensitive, and this is the first book. Snape would never give anybody (except perhaps Slytherins) house points for failure.

      • Confirmed Sarah you are right, well done TH_NK for fixing this logic flow on potions.

  • SM

    they stopped giving the 1 point for failing @ your potion …

    • Did they? I’ll log in when I get home from work to try this out, but if they did this is actually good news, it will make the potion making much more logical.

      The thing I don’t get though… it is supposed to be potter timeline sensitive, and this is the first book. Snape would never give anybody (except perhaps Slytherins) house points for failure.

      • Confirmed Sarah you are right, well done TH_NK for fixing this logic flow on potions.

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  • Supermanbobyoismyname

    pottermore rocks

  • Gokul Ncb

    is it only duel and brewing potions so that we can housepoints??is there any other way?

    • Playing through the storyline you earn some points too, each chapter you finish you get points, you also get points for finding items in moments, but once you have finished all of that, the only things left are dueling and brewing potions.

  • Gokul Ncb

    is it only duel and brewing potions so that we can housepoints??is there any other way?

    • Playing through the storyline you earn some points too, each chapter you finish you get points, you also get points for finding items in moments, but once you have finished all of that, the only things left are dueling and brewing potions.

  • Mason

    how do i get a 144 on a wizard duel i uaslly get 142

  • Mason

    how do i get a 144 on a wizard duel i uaslly get 142

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  • Nabiha Hashemee

    During Duels is it better to use the keyboard or the mouse?

    • I find it easier to use the keyboard, I find it much harder to use the mouse and get high enough points. My wife on the other hand finds the mouse easier, but then again I’ve never had a fast trigger finger when doing PC Gaming (one of the reasons I don’t do it)

  • Nabiha Hashemee

    During Duels is it better to use the keyboard or the mouse?

    • I find it easier to use the keyboard, I find it much harder to use the mouse and get high enough points. My wife on the other hand finds the mouse easier, but then again I’ve never had a fast trigger finger when doing PC Gaming (one of the reasons I don’t do it)

  • Btwhitt

    You can still get far more points by dueling than by brewing potions whether you use this trick or not.

    • Well this trick as I mentioned in my followup post doesn’t work anymore, but when it did there was no dueling (as it had been closed for a long time)

  • Btwhitt

    You can still get far more points by dueling than by brewing potions whether you use this trick or not.

    • Well this trick as I mentioned in my followup post doesn’t work anymore, but when it did there was no dueling (as it had been closed for a long time)

  • At least we don’t have to crawl on our hands and knees through a barrel to get into our common room.

    • GryffinRoar

      Hey! I’m a gryffindor but don’t make fun of hufflepuffs! What did they ever do to you?

      • I love hufflepuffs, this comment was in response to someone else’s comment and was good clean teasing fun 🙂

        • I am a Hufflepuff. And thanks you guys.

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  • Denton Deb

    Hi! Thank you for your answer!
    My other question is: how do I open Book 2 on the Gateway page?
    Thanks!

    • As I said, only book 1 is available, you cannot open up any other book except for book 1 on the gateway.

  • Denton Deb

    Hi! Thank you for your answer!
    My other question is: how do I open Book 2 on the Gateway page?
    Thanks!

    • As I said, only book 1 is available, you cannot open up any other book except for book 1 on the gateway.

  • Unknown Character

    I wish they would still give you points its so hard to already earn them

  • Unknown Character

    I wish they would still give you points its so hard to already earn them

  • PottermoreFan987

    they don’t give you a house point for failing anymore, instead you loose 5 house points… this article no longer helps… but by the way ravenclaw is still really good… don’t give up ravenclaw’s!!!

    • my whole reason for posting this was so they would fix it. if I had just wanted house points, I would have simply kept it to myself.

  • PottermoreFan987

    they don’t give you a house point for failing anymore, instead you loose 5 house points… this article no longer helps… but by the way ravenclaw is still really good… don’t give up ravenclaw’s!!!

    • my whole reason for posting this was so they would fix it. if I had just wanted house points, I would have simply kept it to myself.

  • PottermoreFan987

    <3 pottermore.com potion making is so fun though!!! <3 pottermore.com

  • PottermoreFan987

    <3 pottermore.com potion making is so fun though!!! <3 pottermore.com

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    don’t spend too much money on cauldrons if you burn them, so be careful when brewing potions… be time contious 🙂 pottermore.com insider.pottermore.com

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  • castlepatronus18100

    I think correct potion should be awarded more house points. it is such a hassle to make it correctly!!!!